SOMEONE ASKED đ
What is the difference between being baptized and being saved?
HERE THE ANSWERS đ
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There is no difference because baptism not only washes away you sins it also saves you.
People who believe in salvation by âfaith onlyâ often claim that the thief on the cross proves that baptism is not necessary to receive the forgiveness of sins. Was the thief saved under the gospel of Jesus Christ? Does the Bible teach that people today can be forgiven by faith alone without being baptized?
Luke 23:39-43 â While Jesus was dying, there was a conversation with the two thieves who were dying with Him. One ridiculed Him. The other defended Jesus and recognized Jesus was innocent. Jesus promised this one would be in Paradise(purgatory) that day.
This saying of Jesus has become a center of controversy. Many folks believe they are saved today by âfaith onlyâ and baptism is not essential to being forgiven of sins. When the subject is discussed, these folks often argue that the thief was saved without being baptized and this example shows people today can do the same.
Consider Jesusâ statement about the thief. Does it mean we can be saved by faith alone without baptism?
Multitudes had been baptized by John the Baptist and by Jesusâ disciples (Matt. 3:5,6; John 4:1,2). It is entirely possible that the thief was baptized and then later fell into sin. In this case, he would be an erring child of God not in need of baptism like an alien sinner. We cannot argue this is a case of salvation without baptism unless we know the person was not baptized.
The thief is also not an example of salvation by faith under the gospel.
Those who argue for salvation by âfaith onlyâ cannot use the thief to defend their position either, for he did not have the kind of faith that is required for salvation today.
Romans 10:9 â that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.
To be saved according to the gospel we must believe that God has raised Jesus from the dead. The thief on the cross could not possibly believe that, since Jesus had not died let alone been raised.
Many Scriptures clearly teach that baptism is essential to receive forgiveness under the gospel.
Mark 16:16 â He who believes and is baptized will be saved.
Acts 2:38 â Repent and be baptized for the remission of sins.
Acts 22:16 â Be baptized and wash away your sins.
Rom. 6:3,4; Gal. 3:26,27 â We are baptized into Christ, into His death. We have newness of life after we have been baptized (John 3:3,5).
I Pet. 3:21 â Baptism now saves us.
Godâs word does not contradict itself. It clearly teaches baptism is essential to receive remission. Therefore, the thief cannot prove people ARE saved without baptism for that would contradict other Scriptures. So there must be some other explanation for the case of the thief.
The thief was saved while the Old Testament was still in effect. He is not an example of salvation under the gospel at all.
The truth is that the thief was saved under a different law and dispensation than we are under. That is why it does not matter whether or not he believed what we must believe, and for the same reason it does not matter whether or not he was baptized. How he was saved is irrelevant to how we are saved.
Col. 2:14 â Jesus removed the first ordinances nailing them to His cross. Until Jesus died, the Jews lived under the laws given at Mt. Sinai through Moses. When He died, those laws ceased to be in effect.
Eph. 2:13-16 â He abolished the old law through His blood shed on the cross (v13,16).
Heb. 10:9,10; 9:16,17 â Jesus removed the first testament and replaced it with His new covenant the gospel. It is under this new testament that we are saved by Jesusâ death. As with any will or testament, Jesus had to die to bring His testament into force. The old law was in effect until Jesus died, then it was replaced by the New Covenant. [. Gal. 3:13; Rom. 7:4]
But the thief was forgiven before Jesus died and therefore while the first covenant was in effect. The conditions he had to meet to be forgiven prove nothing about the conditions under which we are forgiven. He proves no more about how we should be saved than does David, Moses, Noah, or Abraham. They did not have to believe what we do nor did they have to be baptized because they did not live under the same law we do.
While Jesus was on earth, He had the power to forgive people directly as He chose. After His death, people can be saved only according to the terms of His will.
During His life, Jesus directly spoke the forgiveness of several people (Mark 2:5-12; Luke 7:48,49; cf. John 8:1-11). Apparently the thief is another such case. But the conditions under which He forgave people then are not the terms of the gospel since, as shown above, it was not yet in effect.
During his lifetime, a man may distribute his possessions to anyone he wishes in any way he wishes. But after his death, no one has any right to receive anything from the man except according to the terms of his will or testament. The will does not come into effect till He dies.
So Jesus directly forgave people during His lifetime (apparently according to His ability to read their hearts and observe their lives). The gospel came into effect after He died, and people today receive forgiveness only by complying with its terms. Those terms require baptism, as well as faith, as per verses already listed.
Jesus is the Lord and Savior. Only He has the right to announce the terms under which He will forgive men. If we seek His forgiveness, it must be according to the conditions He has revealed.
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When you are baptized the original sin that you were born with is washed away(Gen 8:21 and Psalm 51).
Being saved, usually refers to the point of belief in Jesus Christ and the Power of the Cross. Though this belief could be something that one is taught from childhood and only confirmed later as a á´Ęá´Ńá´á´É´ as a choice to continue believing.
Mark 16:16
Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned.
Acts 2:38
Peter replied, âRepent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
Seems to me that some Christians are ignoring the clear word of God in this particular instance, and relying on traditions of men who obviously did not study scripture enough. We Catholics believe in the Entire Bible.
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What Is Being Saved
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Being âsavedâ is normally an âevangelicalâ emphasis. For many other Christians, it is through baptism that a person becomes a part of the household of faith and a member of the Church of God. In many Evangelical churches, âfaithâ preceeds baptism, and the act of baptism latter is just a symbolic affirmation of faith. For others like Catholics, Lutherans, and Orthodox, it is a sacramental grace through which God creates a ânew beingâ and the convert is buried with Christ in the waters of Baptism and raised with him in newness of life. It is the beginning of oneâs faith journey and the âdoorâ to Christian membership.
I Peter 3:20-21: âWhich sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water. The like figure whereunto [even] baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:â
Romans 6:4-6: Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life. For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also [in the likeness] of [his] resurrection: Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with [him], that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin. â
Even the Catholic Church recognizes the validity of baptisms performed in many other denominations. If I wanted to convert to Catholicism, I would not have to be âre-baptizedâ in order to be received into the Catholic Church. Baptism for most Christian denominations is a âuniversal passport.â For those Christians for whom baptism is the central rite of Christian initiation, to latter deny the faith, or convert to another religion would be a serious sin and an act of apostacy.
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there is a close relationship between these two but one could be baptized and yet not saved depending on his intent. But in all, Jesus said, âeccept you are baptized by the water and by the Spirit you are not savedâ. So there is need for the Spirit baptizing.
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Being saved means you believe and accept the sacrifice Jesus made for your sins. Being baptized is symbolic of the death of your sinful life and rebirth as a child of God. You can be saved and not baptized. You cannot be baptized in place of true salvation.
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Being Saved is accepting Jesus into your heart and believing that he died for us. Being baptized is simply a public proclamation of the best decision of your life! (Being Saved)
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You donât have to be baptized to be saved. For certain religions or denominations they require you to get baptized to announce to the world that âyou have been born againâ or saved; however, I have found that most people that have been baptized do it for show or out of tradition and not because they have been saved. Most kids do it because people tell them to or because they see others doing it.
I know a lot of people that have been baptized that will probably burst hell wide open.
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Being saved means that you have admitted that you are a sinner and you have accepted Jesusâ free gift of salvation. Being baptized as a baby doesnât really mean much. It just means that your parents intend to raise you as a Christian. Being baptized as a baby wonât get you into Heaven. Being saved will. When you get baptized as an adult it just you saying that youâre a Christian. Itâs like an outward sign of your Christianity. However once again just being baptized wonât get you salvation.
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Being baptized is a symbol that you are saved. You can be saved and not baptized, but I wouldnât try to be baptized but not saved! ha
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The deference is that being saved is believing that Jesus died on the cross to save you and placing your faith (trust) in Him to do this. John 3:16 âfor God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son for whosoever would believe in him would not perish but have everlasting life.â salvation also requires a person confess their sins before God and repent (turn away) from them. Baptism by water is the outward sign of membership to the Body of Christ (local church that believes in the full gospel of Christ). Baptism by fire is the baptism of the Holy Spirit which believers recieve in order to put sin under subjection in their lives and preform miracles among other things. hope this helps.
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